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Worley's avatar

There are a lot of complexities to this, and I don't claim to begin to understand it all. Two items that occur to me:

Human infants' faces more strongly resemble their fathers than their mothers. It's widely believed that this is to provide evidence to the mother's husband that the child is his and prevent him from killing it. In any case, infanticide selective on various factors has been ubiquitous in human history.

There is a historical account that I've read of part of Temüjin's (Genghis Khan's) life. Presumably it was a modern translation of a history written at about that time. It mentioned that Temüjin's wife had been abducted, and at the time of the birth of Temüjin's first son, "she had only been raped, as she had not yet come to love him".

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pabolp's avatar

It's refreshing to see woman who speak about this topic calmly and rationally (to a point, it is a touchy subject, and for good reason).

Woman have sex with man for many reasons, and some of them are not great.

Consider this example:

One of this reasons is that she want to have children and he is a good man, and he probably will be a good father. If woman however did not consider him to be attractive, and do it with him only to have children is she being raped? After all, she is not physically atracted to him, and when she will have enough children she will stop sleeping with him completely (and might even start to cheat on him with men she consider attractive, or she simply have low libido and will stop having sex at all- after all she got what she wanted).

I also ignore the fact that in this potential scenario man in question have every right to feel cheated- he was used by her and than he is stuck in sexless relationship with her (because he loves his children and don't want to leave them, also if he does he will be painted by society as monster for leaving his children and tearing family apart "only" because of lack of sex).

I'm sorry for such rambling but I am not sure what I wanted to write to you, but something seemed off to me. Maybe the point is that "consent" alone is not a good criteria for deciding whether someting is rape or not because woman consent to sex with men for many reasons, and some of them aren't good? Now I see that my post is not directly linked to topic but it is close enough (i hope) that you will not consider it to be waste of time.

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