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Sharkey's avatar

I agree that women are generally polite, and it is largely about not wanting to get hurt.

I think there are easier solutions, though.

Normal parents don't let their 13 year old daughters go to older men's houses alone. They understand that men want to have (consensual or not), and that teenage girls who can't even drive themselves home will become victims.

Roman Polansky *knows* that. In his mind, he knows that the only reason parents would send a 13 yr old to his house is *so he can have sex with her.*

They did, and so he did.

She is a child, and children are supposed to be protected by their parents. Her parents did not protect her, either because they were very stupid or because they were trying to skirt close to the edge of pimping out their daughter for Hollywood access and miscalculated.

"Don't use your 13 yr old to sexually titillate men" is a pretty easy rule.

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Worley's avatar

Trying to think about this, I'm reminded of a couple of items from Miss Manners. One was in the context of conventional dating, that a man was to understood that a woman was not interested *in him* upon the decline of the third consecutive invitation. Also, that a date invitation should be specific enough that the woman can decline due to some specific conflict. What this does is cut rejection into 3 pieces, which means that the man's motivation for retaliation for any individual rejection is maybe 1/3 of that of the overall rejection.

Another was her point that flirting is always to be ambiguous whether it is serious or not.

These fit the bigger concept that one is never to communicate unambiguously about sexual interest. That seems to apply very broadly across cultures. (OTOH, marriage is often handled in an extremely businesslike way by the relatives.) Given the current attitudes in US colleges, it seems that men are willing to negotiate overtly over sex, reports are that women dislike it intensely. OTOH, most subcultures seem to converge on accepted rituals of steps that a couple must walk through to have sex in an acceptable way, and they seem to provide multiple checkpoints for the woman to say "no" before the man estimates that his chances are high. A man who doesn't go through the checkpoints is considered overly aggressive, whereas a woman who doesn't is considered "fast". Some that I've read about include steps for the woman to "say no but mean yes" in a way that the culture rigidly distinguishes from ways to "say no and mean no".

Most of my life I've lived in subcultures which at least claim to value explicit, honest communication, but I've seen no evidence that humans generally desire that in sexual relationships. I suspect that a careful investigation of the game theory involved would make it clear why, but I've never heard of a really good analysis along those lines.

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