>>So, the traditional societies that lack parent shaming, they haven't culturally evolved to get rid of parent shaming. The parent shaming itself is cultural evolution present in modern societies.
In the narrow sense this is true. "Shame" is the wrong word for what both animals and primitive societies are doing. "Aggression" is a more cor…
>>So, the traditional societies that lack parent shaming, they haven't culturally evolved to get rid of parent shaming. The parent shaming itself is cultural evolution present in modern societies.
In the narrow sense this is true. "Shame" is the wrong word for what both animals and primitive societies are doing. "Aggression" is a more correct word. Animals don't have the idea that children should always be spared from aggression. And humans only slowly and painfully evolved that idea. Both aggression against children and non-support for parents precedes parent shaming: If no one provides for a woman with a newborn, shame is not the most obvious problem. Pure parent shaming, the situation where families are allowed to live and provided for but looked down upon, is a product of civilization and affluence.
>>I wish you would re-examine your disdain for contraception.
I'm for contraception. I'm a heavy user of the stuff myself.
>>Its wrongness is not merely a Christian idea but present in other great religions, Hinduism for one.
Isn't that a sign that anti-parent-shaming is cultural evolution? The idea that contraception is bad evolved all over the world.
Hunter-gatherer bands aside, the ever increasing size of human societies, first into villages of few hundreds, then into towns of few thousands, then into Rome like metropolises, then into empires and now world cities of tens of millions and nations like India of billion-plus----this is strong evidence that aggression towards parents and children is not a dominant force in past ten millennia.
>>So, the traditional societies that lack parent shaming, they haven't culturally evolved to get rid of parent shaming. The parent shaming itself is cultural evolution present in modern societies.
In the narrow sense this is true. "Shame" is the wrong word for what both animals and primitive societies are doing. "Aggression" is a more correct word. Animals don't have the idea that children should always be spared from aggression. And humans only slowly and painfully evolved that idea. Both aggression against children and non-support for parents precedes parent shaming: If no one provides for a woman with a newborn, shame is not the most obvious problem. Pure parent shaming, the situation where families are allowed to live and provided for but looked down upon, is a product of civilization and affluence.
>>I wish you would re-examine your disdain for contraception.
I'm for contraception. I'm a heavy user of the stuff myself.
>>Its wrongness is not merely a Christian idea but present in other great religions, Hinduism for one.
Isn't that a sign that anti-parent-shaming is cultural evolution? The idea that contraception is bad evolved all over the world.
Hunter-gatherer bands aside, the ever increasing size of human societies, first into villages of few hundreds, then into towns of few thousands, then into Rome like metropolises, then into empires and now world cities of tens of millions and nations like India of billion-plus----this is strong evidence that aggression towards parents and children is not a dominant force in past ten millennia.
Only if there are not even stronger forces that work in the opposite direction.