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Ted Cross's avatar

On the simultaneous development of agriculture "coincidence":

~12,000 years ago is when we left the ice ages and entered into a stable climate. We have had an incredibly volatile climate over the last 100,000 years thanks to many cycles of advancing and retreating ice sheets. These caused consistent, global climate change.

Ice ages are generally bad times to grow, across the globe. As Wikipedia puts it:

"During the Last Glacial Maximum, much of the world was cold, dry, and inhospitable, with frequent storms and a dust-laden atmosphere. The dustiness of the atmosphere is a prominent feature in ice cores; dust levels were as much as 20 to 25 times greater than now.[15] This was probably due to a number of factors: reduced vegetation, stronger global winds, and less precipitation to clear dust from the atmosphere."

The stability that began 12,000 years ago enabled the population densities, globally. This vox article has some good charts and quotes from climate scientists: https://www.vox.com/2015/12/12/9894234/climate-change-explained

I think this actually helps your argument. There was significant migration out of Africa starting around 100,000 years ago. Not much happened in terms of developing civilization until 12,000 years ago, when all of a sudden climates EVERYWHERE became more stable, warmer, and wetter, and then boom, agriculture develops simultaneously in many locations.

Nick R's avatar

Interesting and convincing. I too was shocked and repelled by the abuse heaped on Chagnon for reporting findings that his academic colleagues disliked when I read his book ten or so years ago. I only read Demonic Males last summer and was struck by how is confirmed and complemented Chagnon. Your posts add valuable further insights.

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