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Nick R's avatar

What you've written is unobjectionable. You've just run into the same visceral aversion experienced more explosively by Chagnon. People have no trouble rejecting facts and logic if these threaten their most cherished model of how the world and the humans in it to behave rather than the model than accords with evidence. We see this play out every day. Perhaps it's ironic that this rejection on the part of elite opinion (and it is elite opinion) entails a rejection of evidence from evolution and behavior throughout the animal kingdom. You're actually a good and thoughtful writer and the pushback you're getting has nothing to do with the quality of your writing. IMAO.

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I think Chagnon was only half right. A significant part of their diet was plantains and it would take about a year to get their plantain operation going. He does mention in his book how when a village fissions the people that move away have to trade their women for plantains as even a group of 50-60 people cannot get all their calories from hunting by just staying in one place in the jungle.

So the fact that it is actually somewhat challenging to move away probably fuels conflicts. Also the terrain doesn't help, it is probably dangerous to move through a jungle with a large group without having a protected place to sleep at night for a sustained period. Due to Jaguars and possibly hostile enemy villages.

Still doesn't negate the fact that most conflicts are started over women, but I would bet if it was easier to move around for larger groups, and without the thick jungle, there would not be as much violence.

What bothers me most about all this is that by the looks of it, there wasn't a single other anthropologist that put in a similar amount of work as Chagnon. So his collagues basically sat on the sidelines trashing him, but they couldn't be bothered to set up their own operation and collect data to try and prove him wrong. There was no shortage of villages either as tens of thousands of Yanomamo lived in the area, a lot of them never having seen a white man even near the end of Chagnon's data gathering.

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