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Tom Häkkinen's avatar

I agree Tove. I especially think the idea that Europe could just refuse to admit masses of desperate Africans is extremely misguided.

I think there are two issues here: (1) people struggle to comprehend what a population of a million is; and (2) people underestimate human ingenuity in the face of desperate necessity (even very low-IQ individuals).

For example, the drug-abusing population of America hardly represents “elite human capital” but think how much their demand for drugs is able to circumvent borders, bribe judges and set up sophisticated logistics networks etc to supply their need. Or consider a typical prison, where the inmates are locked-down, mail searched, visitors frisked etc and yet still these places are often awash in drugs. Never underestimate human ingenuity.

The ultimate example is perhaps the 2 million supposedly low-IQ Palestinians in Gaza and the famously high-IQ Jews of Israel. Yet despite the city being walled-off and bombed to rubble, as far as I’m aware, Hamas were able to keep manufacturing makeshift rockets to fire at the IDF right up until the end of this war—even while ordinary Palestinians didn’t have enough food to eat.

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1. This is one of the reasons that my catch-phrase is now "this is the Century of Consequences".

2. History is indeed a guide to the future. For example, look how ably our global political elite is forestalling climate change, which they (now) claim to be a huge threat.

First we will have decades of Lyman Stone's attitude, that Africa is not a problem, and then eventually the admission that well, maybe it is, but it's easy to fix. Just a matter of adjusting some market regulations.

3. IQ is indeed only a part of the problem in Africa. Culture is the majority of it, and culture takes many, many decades to change.

Africa (certainly the Bantu-peopled parts of it, which is most of sub-Saharan Africa) suffers from a family system that is incompatible with industrial civilisation: very clan focused, often polygynous, oppressive of women and neglectful of children.

Things like property rights, the rule of law, and due process are rather silly notions to most Africans as well. Disputes get settled by force of arms. Again, these institutional issues would take multiple decades to fix, even if Africa wanted to.

Any resources that Europeans provide will just be diverted to the clans of the people in charge. Again, history is a guide for this.

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