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Tove K's avatar

>>For the last three weeks Tove has been in rude health, instead she has dumped an infant on me which has increased my child minding duties and also led to a bit of sleep deprivation.

That's not fair! I didn't dump an infant on you: You threw me out to work.

On topic: I pressed the link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effacer_le_tableau on the genocide of the Bambuti pygmies and found about half a page of text. Apparently it is of very little interest that tens of thousands of people and (if I get it right) more than half of a ethnic group were killed off.

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One aspect of this that isn't mentioned is that the European ethnicities are to a considerable extent artificial themselves, deliberately created by the states. The case I've seen most written about is France, where Paris imposed its concept of Frenchness, and particularly its dialect, on the rest of the territory. I've read that even in contemporary times, teachers weren't allowed to work in the region they grew up in, to ensure that French remains uniform. And back when the EU was being established, I remember one news story interviewing a farmer, "First I am Provencal. Second I am French. Third perhaps I am European." That's not to say that once such an ethnic homogeneity is created/enforced that it does not cause a coherence of the population.

A contrary example is Bret Devereaux' historical essays. In one he points out that the United States has never defined itself as a nation-state, that is, the homeland of a people with a common descent. (Which accounts for US patriotism centering on the political institutions of the state rather than the nation's deep history.) Much more interestingly, he argues that Rome didn't either, that the Roman conception of citizenship was always a legal one. This, and the pressure of various events, made it easy for Rome to expand citizenship (in various degrees) to wider ranges of people that they'd conquered as a device for obtaining cooperation. Late in the empire, citizenship was extended to all free males. Devereaux argues that this helps account for the long life of the Roman polity (about 2,000 years!) -- unlike most ancient empires, where one kingdom-nation conquered a bunch of its neighbors, who then broke away as soon as the empire inherited an incompetent king. By late empire times, the people of the empire thought of themselves as Romans and had no sense of being violated by Roman rule (even though they surely still saw themselves as ethnically different).

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