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Mike Hind's avatar

Fascinating and I just want to say thank you for the work you put into this.

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Leo Abstract's avatar

Excellent post, as usual! I"d question the use of the word 'intellect' a bit, in a Joseph Henrich "Secret of our Success" kind of way, however, and introduce the prestige vs dominance hierarchy problem. We haven't taken away the dominance hierarchy in the last five million years (which is why all the comparisons with chimps make perfect sense), but we've added a separate one that chimps cannot fathom. Using binocular vision on this question resolves most of the confusion.

Do women want to be raped? Yes. Do women want very much not to be raped? Also yes. Does a woman want to be raped by a man who is stronger than her? Yes. Does a woman want to be raped by a man who is stronger than her but weaker than other men? Hell no. Does a woman want to be raped by a man who is stronger than other men but also low-prestige? Depends (partially on the woman's prestige level and what she feels like she can get), but mostly no.

The examples from bodice-rippers (the obsolete term for them is instructive, here) you give include a rapist who is a captain. He's not a mentally-handicapped giant of a man whom the ship's crew employ as a cook or a cabin-boy. He's violent and high in both dominance and prestige hierarchies. Grey is similar, as are fictional smart serial killers. So, bizarrely, are porn actors doing rape scenes -- like anyone else on the silver screen, they're marked as high-prestige by the frame of the media in which they appear, even if on-screen they appear brutish and high only in dominance.

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