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A madness theory of religion and civilization was also provided by Julian Jaynes of bicameral mind who also started with an ape band. It is the question of communication in an ever-larger community that gave rise to "voices" of the absent leader being heard by an individual.

Followed by "voice" of the dead ruler, followed by "voice" of gods. And as voices withdraw as human mentality evolves, we have all the paraphernalia of religion--prayers, ritual etc etc ---all in hope of invoking the now-silent voices.

I is very interesting theory, well worth your comment,

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About 15 years ago, I read an interesting book whose name I have forgotten by, IIRC, an American ex-pat living in Russia. It was part a history of revolutions and part speculation on the rise of "mass shootings" in American schools and workplaces, with a communist ideological bent. The book's core thesis was that the first revolutionaries/people who went against established social norms (like early American abolitionists) were seen as crazy by their contemporaries because they actually *were* crazy. Any sane person would look at the odds of a revolution succeeding, decide it was zero, and stay home. Only a crazy person like John Brown would lead a raid on Harper's Ferry, and indeed he died, but without crazy people who can't work out their odds of death, normal people who are also anti-slavery have no idea that other anti-slavery people exist. If enough crazy people start revolting, normal people will see that they have the numbers and start joining; this creates a feedback loop where more people are willing to joing as the revolution becomes a surer thing.

Another example who's much more famous is Muhammad, who went from hearing angels to successful warlord. Men like Genghis Khan and Attila the Hun may have also operated under some level of grandiose delusions, except in their case they actually managed to conquer large parts of the world.

One quibble: there are accounts of clearly insane people from before the Enlightenment. For example, Mark 5: 1-13:

"They went across the lake to the region of the Gerasenes. 2 When Jesus got out of the boat, a man with an impure spirit came from the tombs to meet him. 3 This man lived in the tombs, and no one could bind him anymore, not even with a chain. 4 For he had often been chained hand and foot, but he tore the chains apart and broke the irons on his feet. No one was strong enough to subdue him. 5 Night and day among the tombs and in the hills he would cry out and cut himself with stones."

This is sad! This guy is crazy and his neighbors have definitely not made him a prophet or shaman; they've been chaining him up. And when that didn't work, he became a homeless guy living in the graveyard, yelling at people as they pass by.

Here's the end of the story:

"6 When he saw Jesus from a distance, he ran and fell on his knees in front of him. 7 He shouted at the top of his voice, “What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? In God’s name don’t torture me!” 8 For Jesus had said to him, “Come out of this man, you impure spirit!”

9 Then Jesus asked him, “What is your name?”

“My name is Legion,” he replied, “for we are many.” 10 And he begged Jesus again and again not to send them out of the area.

11 A large herd of pigs was feeding on the nearby hillside. 12 The demons begged Jesus, “Send us among the pigs; allow us to go into them.” 13 He gave them permission, and the impure spirits came out and went into the pigs. The herd, about two thousand in number, rushed down the steep bank into the lake and were drowned."

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